Posts by Newly Enlightened

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Interesting experience last night

by Gojira_101 in

jw
friends

i was hired to interpret for a church event in a neighboring town last night.

i did have a brief moment of thinking demon's would be jumping out to get me as i walked through the front doors of the church, hahahaha, not really, but it did feel awkward at first and i stuck very close to the other interpreter who asked me to help her.

i was definitely out of my comfort zone.. anyway last night i met james walker from the watchmen fellowship.

Newly Enlightened

Very interesting

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WTS Suggestion Box (to give back for all the things the WT has done for us)

by return of parakeet in

jw
friends

sometimes i think we're too hard on the wts and the dubs.

a dub's life, after all, is not an easy one: minimal formal education, low-paying jobs, incessant demands on their time for meetings, field service, shunning, regular beatings for their children, etc.. even the wts itself is not immune.

think of all the hard work the gb must do to keep their "new light" up-to-date without making the old light look like a pack of lies.

Newly Enlightened

LMAO!

I want to thank them for all the years of hilarity and amusement that the Brothers Larry, Curly & Moe Elders have entertained us with.

Hopefully we'll have a video soon [We're working on it] for Youtube for more priceless entertainment. SHHHHHH it's a secret. Don't want to give away anymore. We will let everyone know when it's ready.

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Question on the Watchmen?????

by Gojira_101 in

jw
friends

i was looking at some of the info on the watchman's website.

i see some links to their website often on jwn, and i was wondering if any of you had any questions for them and the little work they have done on the jw cult.

what would you ask the watchmen?.

Newly Enlightened

Tell him thank you for their work and if they need anymore info, we'll be happy to supply it.

Their website: http://www.watchman.org

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I'M SERIOUS!!!! If you eat cupcakes you will die at the Big "A"

by Gojira_101 in

i was just doing dishes not really thinking about anything in particular, and all of a sudden this experience came flooding back and i started crying.. a few years ago i went back to one of the states i lived in to see/visit my friends (before i learned ttatt, i was still a happy borg at this time).. the friends i were staying with had two young girls, one was 3rd grade and the other was preschool.

so one day the father comes home after picking up the older girl (i think she was 7, 8...i'm not sure exactly this was several years ago) and she was all red and looked like she had been crying.

i noticed she had some blue at the corner of her mouth.

Newly Enlightened

Of course you can have cupcakes Sweetie. I really like the monster ones above in the picture. Maybe with SPARLOCK gingerbread cookies?

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I don't have a good title, just read it

by Honeybucket in

jw
friends

last night my husband and i watched a special on the history channel about the knights templar.

about two weeks before i showed my husband the 607/587 blunder.

first off, he didn't even know that 607 was relevant to jw teachings.

Newly Enlightened

We just watched this documentary on Netflix also! It is very good. Another good one was 'Legacy: History of Civilizations" At the end of the 6 episodes they are showing how the U.S. has taken all these different things from all the civilizations thru history and even tho there are seveal other countries larger, the guy asks "How did one country get all the power?"

Hubby & I turned to one another and said at the same time "The 8th King". and they've already handed their power over to him. The show gave me goose bumps when he asked that.

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UN (again!)

by zound in

hi guys, i'm new to the site.. sorry to bring up an old topic.

but just wondering if anyone knew if the brochure referred to in the infamous un letter of 2004 is available to read anywhere?

this is the brochure of 1991 (before the supposed "changed language that we cannot subsribe to").

Newly Enlightened

Welcome Zound. Glad to have you here with us. There is quite a bit of info on the website below.

I'm not sure if it has the info you seek on the UN & WTBT$

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/united-nations-association.php

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The 1927-1946 "Messenger" CD by request!

by Atlantis in

from one of the friends here:.

nevada do you still have those messengers with rutherfords pictures?.

tx.

Newly Enlightened

BOC: I got my copy of the Oct/1/2012 BOE letter on here from Atlantis. So if you look thru his post of BOE letter you should find it. Plus, my cousin the elder verified that the copy I had was legit then asked me where I got it

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I'M SERIOUS!!!! If you eat cupcakes you will die at the Big "A"

by Gojira_101 in

i was just doing dishes not really thinking about anything in particular, and all of a sudden this experience came flooding back and i started crying.. a few years ago i went back to one of the states i lived in to see/visit my friends (before i learned ttatt, i was still a happy borg at this time).. the friends i were staying with had two young girls, one was 3rd grade and the other was preschool.

so one day the father comes home after picking up the older girl (i think she was 7, 8...i'm not sure exactly this was several years ago) and she was all red and looked like she had been crying.

i noticed she had some blue at the corner of her mouth.

Newly Enlightened

Yep, you're right WH. I wish some child psychologists could see how JW's treat their kids. My dad used to beat me with a 2 inch leather belt and tell me that he would beat the devil out me.

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I'M SERIOUS!!!! If you eat cupcakes you will die at the Big "A"

by Gojira_101 in

i was just doing dishes not really thinking about anything in particular, and all of a sudden this experience came flooding back and i started crying.. a few years ago i went back to one of the states i lived in to see/visit my friends (before i learned ttatt, i was still a happy borg at this time).. the friends i were staying with had two young girls, one was 3rd grade and the other was preschool.

so one day the father comes home after picking up the older girl (i think she was 7, 8...i'm not sure exactly this was several years ago) and she was all red and looked like she had been crying.

i noticed she had some blue at the corner of her mouth.

Newly Enlightened

Unbelievable. Now, after you've been out you look back and see how ridiculous everything is.

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Freemason's & Mormon similarties.....

by Newly Enlightened in

i know there is some controversy whether or not c.t.

russell was a mason.

i won't go there.

Newly Enlightened

I know there is some controversy whether or not C.T. Russell was a Mason. I won't go there. And I know that this isn't the usual WTBT$/JW topic but Hubby & I were watching a documentary last night about the founding father's of U.S.A and their membership in the Freemason's and how this country was set up according to their beliefs. It was very interesting. But they brought up a points.... Even tho the Mason's aren't christian per se, they do still have some similarities with the beliefs. Here are a few things I found interesting. At initiation theya re given a white apron. When they die they are buried in this apron. The docu brought out that the Mormon's have a similar belief and inferred that the LDS religion was started by a Freemason Joseph Smith.

Freemason’s White Apron

Masonic historian William Harvey, in his detailed dissertation on the subject, entitled The Mason’s Apron, asserts, “We are told that the Apron is the badge of Innocence and the bond of Friendship … In addition to being the badge of Innocence and the bond of Friendship, the apron is an ever-present reminder of that purity of life and action which should at all times characterise a Freemason … the apron is an emblem of all that is highest and best in human life … When first invested with it we are conjured to let its pure and spotless surface be to us an ever-present reminder of rectitude of life and purity of conduct; and a never failing argument for higher thoughts, nobler deeds, and greater achievements. What is all this but an appeal to the best that is in us to make this world a better place for ourselves and our fellow-men?”

He adds, “The apron is the most comprehensive symbol of our faith.” We should not overlook the nature and gravity of this last statement as it is in such contrast to Christianity where Christ is the exclusive focus of the believer’s faith.

Freemasonry points to this white garment as the ultimate picture of purity and spotlessness. The donning of this garment is said to be indicative of the righteousness of the wearer. We cannot underestimate the importance the white robe or white apron plays in secret society thinking. Plainly, it is not a mere a badge of recognition between members nor simply a garment of decoration for special ceremonies, but it is an emblem of great honour and spiritual signification among the secret fraternal family. It represents a virtuous standing through human attainment. It denotes righteous living, something man cannot achieve outside of Christ and the Christian new birth.

Masonic writings praise the merits of this white apron and present it as a proof that there is some special virtue within the make-up of the Mason wearing it. One can come to no other conclusion but that it is intended to represent the idea that man is justified through his own good works. The member and his white garment are inextricably connected. He has become a new man – a pure man, all by being inducted into the Masonic Lodge by means of ritualistic initiation.

Not only does Freemasonry continually try to identify the whiteness of the lambskin apron with the character of the candidate, it also constantly elevates the apron as the Mason’s sole hope of salvation and therefore way of access into heaven. The Lodge endeavours to relate the purity of the white apron to the “life and actions” of the Mason. It promises the candidate that if he follows the example of the lambskin apron he will one day stand before the Great White Throne and here the immortal words: “Well done, thou good and faithful servant! Enter thou into the joy of thy Lord!” (Matthew 25:21, 23).

Not surprisingly, the white robe endowment conferment plays a crucial part in the Mormon temple initiation ceremony. Its founder, Joseph Smith, was a zealous high-degree Freemason. Before receiving his white robe, symbolising his innocence, the Mormon candidate must go through a washing and anointing ceremony in which he is firstly stripped of all his worldly clothing, washed by his instructors, symbolising the removal of his sins. He is then anointed with oil in recognition of his supposed innocence, which thus enables him to be endowed with his robes of purity.

The Mormon lecturers then teach: “Brother, having authority, I place this garment upon you…which you must wear throughout your life. It represents the garment given to Adam when he was found naked in the Garden of Eden, and is called the garment of the holy priesthood. Inasmuch as you do not defile it, but are true and faithful to your covenants, it will be a shield and a protection to you against the power of the destroyer until you have finished your work on the earth. With this garment I give you a new name.”

The Mormon lecturers then declare, “Brethren, you have been washed and pronounced clean, that through your faithfulness, you may become clean from the blood of the sins of this generation. You have been anointed to become hereafter kings and priests unto the Most High God, to rule and reign in the House of Israel forever.” Finally, alluding specifically to these white garments, the Mormon lecturer affirms (in close keeping with Masonry), “these endowments are to prepare you for exaltation in the Celestial Kingdom.”

Like the fraternal world of secret societies, Mormonism takes these material garments as a symbol of the initiate’s supposed innate purity and presents them as his assumed guarantee of heaven. In keeping with Masonry it associates salvation with the reception of this garment – with it they obtain “a new name.” The mysterious awe with which these supposed garments of spotlessness and innocence are held, reveals the idolatrous nature of Mormonism. The veiled language used in the Temple ceremony exposes the hidden Occult significance of its teaching. In reality this garment is symbolic of Satan’s deceptive religion of good works.

Secret societies, the cults and the Occult foolishly point their initiates to a man-made white garment as a sign of moral cleanness, and as their hope in this life of salvation. Scripture on the other hand points men to the Saviour and what He has secured for sinners. As the Mason departs this life, at the point of death, his Lodge colleagues’ eyes are directed toward the lambskin apron for their example and eternal hope around the grave. The white apron follows him into the grave. At the Mason’s burial the “Worshipful Master” repeats the assurance that all Masons receive when they first joined the Lodge and receive their own white aprons.

http://www.evangelicaltruth.com/entered_apprentice_white_apron.html